Making Maps WIth BZEdit32

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Making Maps WIth BZEdit32

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Okay, heres the jizz of it. My good friend PETER, who recomended downloading BZEdit32 to make a map. I have done this, but I have also downloaded pyBZEdit because I have heard u can can better results overall on the finish.

PETER has also kindly given me a reasonably detailed starter-off walkthrough guide, but there are still a couple of things that I cant seem to get my attention of which i have listed below.

1. I have got the hang of how to "twirl" the view around by right clicking and dragging around, but how do i litterally just surf around like u can for example on something like Google Earth.

2. After I have actually finished making the map, how do i run it as a server?



Now those are my main questions for BZEdit. Now onto the questions regarding pyBZEdit.

1. How long would it take roughly to create a half decent server. (for example, how long would it take to create a server like Loumans House, and how long would it take to create something like Planet Mofo, but with textures - obviously not these exact maps cos that wud be copying, but something of that standard of work)

2. When i made a rough map with it before and pressed "Run", an error message came up. Why was this? Am i doing sum nooby mistake (of which i seem to be doing quite alot lately)?


Please can anyone help me as quickly as humanly possible, because I am meant to be revising for my exams 2moro but cant be bothered atm lol - they are gonna total a massive 5 hours long. Tragic stuff. And I thanku all in advance for anyone who helps me :D
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Lt-Kirby2007 wrote:1. I have got the hang of how to "twirl" the view around by right clicking and dragging around, but how do i litterally just surf around like u can for example on something like Google Earth.
I don't know what you mean :?

but umm here's what you can do:
Shift + Left Click = Movement back and forth/Side to Side
Ctrl + Left Click = Movement up and down
Scoller (Middle Mouse Button) = Zoom in and out.
Lt-Kirby2007 wrote: 2. After I have actually finished making the map, how do i run it as a server?
try googling for the many many pages on it :P

Nevermind, here is a link:
Creating A Server - BZFlag Wiki

And here is a sample Configuration File:
Sample Conf - BZFlag Wiki
Lt-Kirby2007 wrote: 1. How long would it take roughly to create a half decent server. (for example, how long would it take to create a server like Loumans House, and how long would it take to create something like Planet Mofo, but with textures - obviously not these exact maps cos that wud be copying, but something of that standard of work)
I can't really say but I could give an estimate. Probably, something like Loumans House, around a month. I could be way way off though, I have't ever made anything anywhere near as complex as his maps.

Lt-Kirby2007 wrote: 2. When i made a rough map with it before and pressed "Run", an error message came up. Why was this? Am i doing sum nooby mistake (of which i seem to be doing quite alot lately)?
Could you explain that a little more please. Pressed 'run' where?
What did the error message say?
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Post by Lt-Kirby2007 »

well i was in pyBZEdit this time wen i was trying to press run. It was on the tools menu bar at the top. And you had a choice of "Run Server", and another choice of "Run Server and BZFlag". The error message was:-

Execution of command "'C:\Program Files\Bzflag\bzfs.exe"-ms 10 -s 20 -sb -j +r -st 3 world "" failed (error 3: the system cannont find the path specified)

Now personally i have no clue on earth wot this means apart from it cant for sum reason run the server...but i dont know why. can u enlighten me? lol
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Well, I can't even begin where to tell you where you went wrong ;)

If you want to run your map on BZFlag.exe you'd want to enter the path to the bzfs application first.

As your on windows you'd type this in your Command Prompt:

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cd C:\\Program Files\\bzflag2.0.8
Then {Enter}

Then now you tell BZFS what Configuration File to run:

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bzfs -conf kirbyno1.txt
Then {Enter}

To run the map you want you need a config. If you haven't created 1 you will only be able to run a random map.

Don't forget to add your World File into the config:

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-world "C:\Documents and Settings\Grace\My Documents\My BZFlag Files\worlds\mapname.bzw"
You do also need to include --> " <-- at the start and end like I've done above
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Post by Lt-Kirby2007 »

ok that sounds to complicated for me. as much as i love computers, and as much as i love bzflag...im useless at all those codes etc. is it any easier for BZEdit? and wot do i do for that?
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Lt-Kirby2007 wrote:ok that sounds to complicated for me. as much as i love computers, and as much as i love bzflag...im useless at all those codes etc.
Same :) Though, what I know now about all this stuff, which is fairly basic is all thanks to BZFlag :P Im a teenager (15) so I don't have much time to actually sit back and learn C/C++ :P
Lt-Kirby2007 wrote:is it any easier for BZEdit? and wot do i do for that?
Do you mean to run a map straight from BZEdit?

If yes - you can't ;) You need to use BZFS. If you want me to explain how to run your map quickly (it literally only takes like 5-10mins :P) tell me and i'll reply with a "Nooby Version" of what I said above :)
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For a reasonably decent map give it about a month like Grace F said. Some people can crank them out a lot faster. On the other hand, I worked on Tunnels on and off for about six months. Just depends on what you want to create.
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Lt-Kirby2007 wrote:1. How long would it take roughly to create a half decent server. (for example, how long would it take to create a server like Loumans House, and how long would it take to create something like Planet Mofo, but with textures - obviously not these exact maps cos that wud be copying, but something of that standard of work)
You would have a hell of a lot of trouble making something like Home Sweet Home in (py)BZEdit. Try "Wings3D" and/or "Blender".
Lt-Kirby2007 wrote:Please can anyone help me as quickly as humanly possible, because I am meant to be revising for my exams 2moro but cant be bothered atm lol - they are gonna total a massive 5 hours long. Tragic stuff. And I thanku all in advance for anyone who helps me :D
I have almost 15 hours of exams, with more than 5 hours on one day. God-only-knows how I've managed to not be totally EMO about it.
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Cannonball....that last bit of ur comment was a bit inappropriate dont u think
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