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My First Map - Amain

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:01 pm
by smartkid
This is my first map. This took me about 8-12 hours of work over the last 4 days. It has over 650 different single items, and makes an ausome CTF map. Its called Amain, I just called it Ambian when i made it but apparently Ambin isent a real word so I found the closest thing Amain :)

Please ask me via email to use the map.
smartkid101@gmail.com


please post your feedback!,
thanx,
smartkid
Change Log --------------------- v1.02

> Update by Tanner
> Fixed red teleport that was to high

Change Log --------------------- v1.01

> set all base teleport from 45 to 54
> Moved all teleports in center room inward 5 to avoid collision
> added small Walls dignoly on each side

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:09 pm
by Discovery
wow

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:10 pm
by smartkid
thanx :)

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:31 pm
by dango
*sings coke leoko theme song wrong*

cool map, quite complex, i like it.
oh, and, map names don't need to be real words FYI...

but i don't think people will like and/or agree with
Alright this is my first map, and its suprisingly AUSOME!
cuz
1)it's YOUR opinion
2)your being overconfident and some people will get annoyed...


ps: it's not paint and gif, it's gif quality in general...

pps:copyrighting bzflag worlds is dumb IMHO...

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:38 pm
by smartkid
me1 wrote:but i don't think people will like and/or agree with
Alright this is my first map, and its suprisingly AUSOME!
\

True, edited

Also your replying to a HUGE Code Lyoko fan :P notive jeremy in sig & avatar.

As far as the copyright stuff, im just dont want people stealing this iv worked way to hard on it... just please ask to use it.

thanx aton,
smartkid

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:43 pm
by dango
i can't sing correctly, and copyright makes some people paranoid about hosting maps... just say "plz ask" and an optional "(OR ELSE :twisted: :twisted: )"

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:46 pm
by Cruel dog
Nice map!

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:47 pm
by smartkid
again thanx

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:16 am
by CannonBallGuy
me1 wrote:1)it's YOUR opinion
And he is entitled to said opinion.
me1 wrote:2)your being overconfident and some people will get annoyed...
That is your opinion which, you are of course entitled to, however inaccurate it may be.
me1 wrote:ps: it's not paint and gif, it's gif quality in general...[/size]
No it's not.
This following picture of a dog is a .gif and you can clearly see that it has perfectly decent quality:
Image
me1 wrote:pps:copyrighting bzflag worlds is dumb IMHO...
That is your opinion, again, which you are again entitled to, however inaccurate it may be.

smartkid, good work. Keep it up. :)
The following link may be of use to you:
http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3798
There you will find links to help you make maps, and include 2.0.x features such as physics drivers.

- CBG

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:17 am
by sid6.7
1. you dont have FULL copyrights to bzflag items your sharing
them with tim riker and the other guy who made bzflag....thier
right to your map superceeds yours in fact...

2. when you posted your map copyrights are assumed
and with the DATE system here it validates who did what first
so your safe posting it here....

3. its silly to post a map here and have people ask you
permission to run it on thier server. on editing it your correct
in asking them to ask you ... as thats just being polite. you
can also ask them to post your name in the server msgs
or in the -public switch

4. names dont need to be real... :D

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:22 am
by Sir Lance-A-Lot
Great-lookin map - keep up the good work :wink:

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:30 am
by ducatiwannabe
Sheesh, just enjoy the map.

Very good job, smartkid!

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:44 am
by the obvious trap
isnt 672 objects laggy?
but a cool map

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:23 am
by smartkid
Wow guys thanx so much! I would really love if I can get someone to host it to see what it can do, im excited :)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:27 am
by trepan
sid6.7:
You're wrong, he owns the copyright to his map. It isn't as
though he's sharing code derived from the bzflag source.
If I draw a picture in GIMP, do the GIMP guys own it? No.

smartkid:
The JPEG format is usually best for screenshots. GIF has
a limited (indexed palette) color space.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:34 am
by smartkid
trepan wrote:smartkid:
The JPEG format is usually best for screenshots. GIF has
a limited (indexed palette) color space.
I know, but gif is smaller, origanially my capture program does bmp but each pic was 2.2MB lol so i just changed it to gif...

just view the map in BZEdit, much easyer!
CannonBallGuy wrote: smartkid, good work. Keep it up. :)
The following link may be of use to you:
http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3798
There you will find links to help you make maps, and include 2.0.x features such as physics drivers.

- CBG
thanx, i intend to, I would really like to add base denenses (automated turrets) to it but dont really know how

Iv read that before, thats how I was able to setup my testing server on my laptop. But with my DSL at 128kbs im afraid a public server is out of the question.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:42 am
by trepan
Not all of us use Windows(tm), so BZEdit isn't readily
available to all. A Windows emulator can be used to run
it on other OSes, but it really isn't worth the bother to
set it up. The map could also be downloaded and run
in bzfs, but again, not the worth the bother.

Try JPEG to next time around. It has a variable compression
level, so you can tailor the quality to your needs (85% is usually
sufficient). A JPEG with the same image size as yours will look
better (the dithering in your images is quite bad).

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:45 am
by smartkid
happy, thought so! :)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:46 am
by Tanner
Smartkid, check your PMs...

-Tanner

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:51 am
by trepan
Happy? Na, not my style.

Now your pictures suck because you're using stipple
shadows rather then the newer stencil shadows. =)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:52 am
by Tanner
trepan wrote:Happy? Na, not my style.

Now your pictures suck because you're using stipple
shadows rather then the newer stencil shadows. =)
Oop, wait. Is he using the latest beta? :D :D

-Tanner

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:53 am
by smartkid
i have the latest beta but i wasent using it in the pics at least i dont think i was :?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:03 am
by smartkid
Hey guys tanner uploaded it for me!

the test map is at: bzflag.norang.ca:5184

please check it out, I doubt it will be a waist of time,

thanx,
smartkid

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:07 am
by smartkid
I am almost shocked, this map has exploded!

It within 30min was top 4th most popural game!
Everyone that has played it so far loves it,
Iv had 2 people recuest to use it!
I had a person say it would be an ausome league map.
I even had a person say this will be the next popular map!

I dont mean to brag but im gitty :)

Thanks so much,
its an honor,
smartkid

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:03 am
by sid6.7
trepan wrote:sid6.7:
You're wrong, he owns the copyright to his map. It isn't as
though he's sharing code derived from the bzflag source.
If I draw a picture in GIMP, do the GIMP guys own it? No.


hmmm it was my understanding that it would a
derivitive thing not a full copyright. esp with open
source stuff...copyrights are such a touchy subject
with so many opinions rather then law i wouldnt want
anyone to cross a line...better safe then sorry so to speak...

i do know that some software comes with full liscense
and limited and some with implied copyrights and others
not...

isnt map code in fact bzflag code? as thats inside
the bzflag source so it can read a map file yes?

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if he gets it back up a fella i know who makes games
got into a copyright battle "LIVE" that i got to watch
happen in his forum...it got hacked with the new phpbb
hack but he will get it back up...it takes him a few weeks
(its happened before) but he always get its put back up..

basically he got to take the name and principle of a game
from someone else but he lost the graphic so he and the
original game maker both won and lost a copyright battle
which shows you how screwy it can get....

here when ever he puts it back up very interesting read:
http://www.easymessageboard.com/forums/

the thread you want will be "end of atlantis"

here is the bzflag lisc. agreement here:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/b ... cvs-markup