Seasonal Ladder - Please Vote!
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Seasonal Ladder - Please Vote!
There have been many excellent suggestions. One in particular has had a lot of support, so we'd like to get a more wide-spread idea of what players think. Mistake proposed a seasonal ladder, which would mean the following:
1. A ladder which is reset each "season", showing a team's ranking based on a point distribution (e.g., 4 points for a win, 2 for a tie, and 1 for a loss).
2. A cumulative ladder, taking into account all previous seasons. The cumulative ladder would not be reset.
3. ELO would still be listed and (for the moment) would remain unchanged.
Essentially, we would be ADDING a seasonal ladder to the existing system. Please let us know whether you would like the council to consider adding a seasonal ladder.
Edit: There is now a demo of a Seasonal Ladder.
1. A ladder which is reset each "season", showing a team's ranking based on a point distribution (e.g., 4 points for a win, 2 for a tie, and 1 for a loss).
2. A cumulative ladder, taking into account all previous seasons. The cumulative ladder would not be reset.
3. ELO would still be listed and (for the moment) would remain unchanged.
Essentially, we would be ADDING a seasonal ladder to the existing system. Please let us know whether you would like the council to consider adding a seasonal ladder.
Edit: There is now a demo of a Seasonal Ladder.
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Yes. I would suggest 4 seasons of 3 months each, per year. Or perhaps 3 seasons, 4 months each.
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I don't think that it should sum up to a full year (12 months) - Summer holydays and christmas shopping is time consuming.CannonBallGuy wrote:Yes. I would suggest 4 seasons of 3 months each, per year. Or perhaps 3 seasons, 4 months each.
I'd prefer 2 seasons a year; August through November, and February through May.
June and July could be used for a trining league, a "summer cup" or something else that's different from the classic league.
I think people would be worn out with 4 seasons a year, and they barely start before they are over.
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But as it is now, with every other league, there are no seasons. Everything is continuous.
We could have 3 seasons, 3 months each with 1 month break between each one, no?
I thought the important point was that the scores would be reset - I didn't think that "other real life commitments" or "I need a break after so much bz" was the problem.
We could have 3 seasons, 3 months each with 1 month break between each one, no?
I thought the important point was that the scores would be reset - I didn't think that "other real life commitments" or "I need a break after so much bz" was the problem.
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The important point probably was/is resetting scores. I just think that resetting scores "all the time" can be demotivating, and that too high a "pulse" in seasons would make people in general not care about the specific season, since the next season starts in "a few moments".CannonBallGuy wrote:But as it is now, with every other league, there are no seasons. Everything is continuous.
We could have 3 seasons, 3 months each with 1 month break between each one, no?
I thought the important point was that the scores would be reset - I didn't think that "other real life commitments" or "I need a break after so much bz" was the problem.
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Won't shorter seasons promote more activity as teams try to get as many points as possible, as quickly as possible?
"This season is over in a month, lets match as much as we can!!" ??
"This season is over in a month, lets match as much as we can!!" ??
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For the season length, there are the following points to consider:
edit But personally I see no problems to have different length of seasons depending on the time of year and expected participation.
- If a season length is short, a team can play a couple of seasons very actively and thus gain a high end position, even if it is inactive for all the other seasons
- If a season is long it will have the participation of more teams.
Generally a longer season will have a better end score which more accurately represents the performance of each team.
But those teams that are very good but cannot play a lot during the whole stretch of season time will not have a chance to end with a high position.
edit But personally I see no problems to have different length of seasons depending on the time of year and expected participation.
Last edited by mistake on Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:12 am, edited 3 times in total.
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I agree, no need to limit our selves to permanent season lenghts.mistake wrote: edit But personally I see no problems to have different length of seasons depending on the time of year and expected participation.
As for activity, we also have to consider breaks between seasons. As
players may get bored after a hard push towards the end of the previous
season. But this poll is only for the concept of a seasonal league to be
affirmed, we can deal with details later I am sure.
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I think a ladder would make people more competitive when they play it.
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Some good ideas above - It hadn't even occurred to vary the season lengths to me.
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hmmm....i get the point in shorter seasons encouraging play maybe...
but i am leaning toward 2 seasons per year with no break in between.
so if there is no concensus, experimenting with different lengths is is all good.
Alexander
but i am leaning toward 2 seasons per year with no break in between.
so if there is no concensus, experimenting with different lengths is is all good.
Alexander
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i voted Yes for a sesonal ladder, but now i think a regular tournament does the same job better. We have a winner a second and a 3. team.
It's short, its tells the same (who is the best for the given season) and it pushes teams more to activity. I suggest a winter and a spring tornament for every year. Build 2 groups, the higher scored and the lower scored groups, draw by lots.
If 2 teams in a given period (might 2 weeks) dont play, the other is in the next rund. Only teams which announce not to participate for the present tournamet are not set. All other teams are set for the first lap.
It's short, its tells the same (who is the best for the given season) and it pushes teams more to activity. I suggest a winter and a spring tornament for every year. Build 2 groups, the higher scored and the lower scored groups, draw by lots.
If 2 teams in a given period (might 2 weeks) dont play, the other is in the next rund. Only teams which announce not to participate for the present tournamet are not set. All other teams are set for the first lap.