Wings Forest Map Project

Red Cobra · Post by **Red Cobra** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:56 am

Ok i'll have it to you by tommorow. Cant do it tonight.

Spazzy McGee · Post by **Spazzy McGee** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:14 am

wait. have the temples in opposite corners, rather than straight across, or maybe slightly offset like this:

Good Flags, or something in the other corners.

hmmm. i'm just thinking about gameplay and layout here.
This has to be fun to play as well as lookm pretty

Red Cobra · Post by **Red Cobra** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:21 am

I dont know why it has to be temples. I dont like that idea. I think nests in trees with the bases in them is a pretty good idea. And around the nest in the one tree is like a platform so tanks can land next to the base instead of on it.

Red Cobra · Post by **Red Cobra** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:30 am

Oh now I see why you are doing the temples because there are temples in the rain forest ok thanks.

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:15 pm

ok, for the bushes i am asking louman if maybe we can use his, if not then win xp will have to make some. i will try also to make a leafy plant to go in, and i can try at the temple, i got wings 3d

Spazzy McGee · Post by **Spazzy McGee** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:18 pm

i found bryce - i'll do my best to make some stuff, biya. They will have to be in .obj format.

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:28 pm

working on temple, question: how do i rotate view in wings 3d?

Spazzy McGee · Post by **Spazzy McGee** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:37 pm

hold alt and 'click-drag-click' to turn in wings i think

OK, well, bryce has this ammazing tree tool.
The only problem is they won't export. Dunno why.

so i suppose it's back to wings 3D, and louman's trees

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:53 pm

nope, it didnt work, and yep i ges so,im working on temple now

Spazzy McGee · Post by **Spazzy McGee** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:16 pm

Spazzy McGee is proud to present:
His first proper wings 3D object:

The Stump.

i need the textures hosted somewhere.

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:18 pm

very very very nice, i love it, how do i make things from wings to bzw and how do i put on textures?

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:12 pm

alrighty, ive made:

1.a temple, see what you think
2.a (not very good) dead tree(unless you add leaves)
3.mushrooms, cool ones:)

as soon as someone tells me how to turn wings to .bzw and how to put textures on i will post them

Spazzy McGee · Post by **Spazzy McGee** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:35 pm

to export to bzw, there is a wings to bzw plugin. search the forums for it. It only works on the most recent versions of wings, so you need, the latest versions of the OS your using (you use Mac OS X Tiger don't you?)

I added my textures after i exported.

For real help on 3D moddeling you want to talk to BIYA. I'm just a beginner.

I need my textures hosted before I post the code for my stump!!!!

capt_crunch · Post by **capt_crunch** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:14 pm

If you want to go with the Aztec/jungle idea, here's an image of a pyramid at Chichen Itza in the Yucatan.

http://www.crystalinks.com/chichensides.jpg

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:22 pm

capt_crunch wrote:If you want to go with the Aztec/jungle idea, here's an image of a pyramid at Chichen Itza in the Yucatan.

http://www.crystalinks.com/chichensides.jpg

alrighty i will make one like that.

BIYA, i think the bridges need to be more like rope kind of bridges not like you have em.

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:32 pm

what else does the map need?

capt_crunch · Post by **capt_crunch** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:36 pm

Spazzy wrote:

hmmm. i'm just thinking about gameplay and layout here.
This has to be fun to play as well as lookm pretty

Playability is also big on my mind. My original idea was that most tanks would be able to fly; i.e. Wings flags heavily scattered everywhere. Other flags would also be around for variety. The team flag carrier would probably not survive going across the map without cover from flying teammates.

I was also thinking that tanks could fly from tree to tree, but flaps would be limited so that they had to be a bit skilled to stay in the treetops. There would be an understory of smaller trees, mushrooms, or something else to give the map multiple flying pathways at different elevations.

Whadda ya think?

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 pm

sounds good, i have mushrooms that i could put around the bottom and some bushes

capt_crunch · Post by **capt_crunch** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:48 pm

Another idea for bridges: fallen logs across the ravine. Might look cool!

Inferno · Post by **Inferno** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:57 pm

lot's of good ideas, this map is going to be pretty good I think. Also in the jungle, you could have thick trees that your tank can't frive threw, but you can shoot bullets between the trees. Get what I mean...

Spazzy McGee · Post by **Spazzy McGee** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:59 pm

eagle wrote:
capt_crunch wrote:If you want to go with the Aztec/jungle idea, here's an image of a pyramid at Chichen Itza in the Yucatan.

http://www.crystalinks.com/chichensides.jpg

alrighty i will make one like that.

wait, it's probably easier to do that with meshboxes in a text editor. i'll try that - that's how i'v been mapping for the past million years.

Inferno · Post by **Inferno** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:07 pm

Spazzy Mcgee wrote:eagle wrote:
capt_crunch wrote:
If you want to go with the Aztec/jungle idea, here's an image of a pyramid at Chichen Itza in the Yucatan.

http://www.crystalinks.com/chichensides.jpg

alrighty i will make one like that.

wait, it's probably easier to do that with meshboxes in a text editor. i'll try that - that's how i'v been mapping for the past million years.

Made with mesh's in wings 3D will definitly be smaller, we have to think about size and profiency here to guys.

Spazzy McGee · Post by **Spazzy McGee** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:17 pm

smaller?

i would have thought it much better to make that aztech pyramid in a text editor, and take up less space in the map file. i see no disadvantage.

eagle · Post by **eagle** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:31 pm

ok, you can make that, i also have a temple you might like
and a like plz for the wings to .bzw plz?

capt_crunch · Post by **capt_crunch** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:50 pm

I spent some time this morning looking for tutorials on tree modeling in Wings3d. It looks like other tools are more suited for generating fractals; I found one question on the Wings3D forums about trees and didn't see any good responses.

I then found this site where it appears you can download a free model of a tree:

http://3dp2.0catch.com/potm/plant%20of% ... month.html

If the link doesn't work, go to 3dplants.com and click on "download plant of the month".

The terms of use appear to suggest that we can use it for 3d games:

YOU ARE ALLOWED TO use this model for the creation of 2-dimensional or 3-dimensional scenes or animations for use in commercial art projects, multi-media applications, architectural or landscape designs, 3D games, virtual reality simulations, etc...

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO sell or distribute this model as an individual 3D mesh model or 3D object, or sell or distribute the associated object geometry or texture files, or modified versions thereof, or post or distribute any files or material from which these geometries or associated files can be extracted.

Official forums for BZFlag.org

Wings Forest Map Project

Aztec pyramids

Re: Aztec pyramids

game playability

Another idea for bridges

Re: Aztec pyramids

Wings3d not good for trees; found free(?) tree model