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I also just want to clarify: there will be only ONE type of offi, that is just when players declare /official. Players choose who they want to offi with and against, just like now. If a color happens to be made up of players from the same team, then their team ELO gets affected after the match. All ...

Hey guys, thanks Const and OP for your questions, and thanks to eti for pretty much answering them. However, I will try to address them as well. So Const asked: how is this different to tracking performance during FMs? Ans: Well, basically, nobody cares about FMs and whether they win or not. Maybe s...

Hi everyone. I just want to update as to what's been happening with this proposal. The original post, as well as the attached document has been updated to accommodate changes based upon player feedback. The current, proposed format is by and large liked by the majority of the community. It is theref...

Re Bert: Firstly I agree with not having a handicap system. It is difficult to implement one that is good, effective, and achieves the desired outcome. It is also incredibly difficult to determine how much a handicap should be depending on who's playing. I definitely do not advocate for one. As for ...

Feedback from Bertman.. copy pasted from pm. Here are my thoughts on the proposal. While it looks good on paper, I do have a few concerns. First, as I have stated before, I am against any proposed handicaps being implemented in any form. I think that this will hurt the development of new and less sk...

Ok, latest update from alot of player feedback. The following format is now implemented: 1. Individuals vs Individuals Individual ELO is updated 2. Team vs Individuals Individual ELO is updated In addition, the color playing as a team has their team ELO updated 3. Team vs Team Individual ELO is upda...

Happy to change the ranking logistics to cater for this if that's what everyone seems to be agreeing upon. Will be updating it soon.

ccb: upon thinking about it, i actually wholeheartedly agree with that individual matches should not affect team ELO. My reasoning is as follows: 1. Players are playing for their individual rankings and not for their team. 2. A player can increase their team ELO without ever matching with their team...

I agree with miro's point which is why I suggested the following earlier: -Implement an individual ladder next to the team ladder. -players will gain/lose individual points on any official match they play respective to the average elon of their opponents. -matches between individuals and teams are ...

In my opinion offis should be only team vs team, a system like this defeats totally the purpose of a team. Any player would be able to join any team and gather points for it just by never playing with their team mates. Would the team mates feel rewarded? I don't think so, if my team has a rank I kn...

Hi all, please see an attachment I've added to the original post. It is the logistics for how the rankings will be calculated using the new format, for both individuals and teams. If any questions or feedback feel free to comment. Thanks! ccb: your idea of team rankings being affected from all offis...

What does this mean for team structure? Would there be a point increase for larger officials, or would it only be for the number of games? I would think encouraging bigger teams (instead of 2 peep exclusive teams) would make it more possible to find matches. It would make people want to reach out f...

I really like the idea on the whole. It would definitely exponentially increase the amount of offi's and would probably help to set up fairer fm's as well if each player had a better known baseline. Don't love ccb's idea as I think it somewhat eliminates the point of having teams at all Thanks Ken....

I really like this above idea actually. It sounds great.

I think I understand what you are saying. So if bad company: miro, zaa, and. Monster would like to offi llrr, kierra, and etigah And: llrr, kierra and etigah win the offi their elo and their respective clans would receive points for winning the official match? and if they lose their elo would eithe...

They way you explained it here is exactly what I was trying to suggest in the other thread - I love it! This will not simply make some fms being played as offis but increase the amount of opportunitis for more competitive matches since most players will try harder if the final score has results on ...

So what changes.... Today we have 12 fms a day and 3 official (on a good day). I'm not saying forcing fms to be included but tapping into those would increase activity. Basically, people can play offis with anyone in order to increase their individual elo. It will promote offis for people who are c...

After further brain storming I'm thinking my second idea could work rather well.. All players remain in their current clan. All players are split up to A,, B, and C or maybe just Team A for a general pool What this does it allows team a to match team b incase there is no suitable clans around Or Te...

No, the idea does not affect fms at all. Fms will still exist and playing a fm will not change any elo for anyone. Elo will change based upon the description only if players /official just like now.

Any and all feedback are welcome. I will update the post if any suggestion is obviously a better solution to any issues.

Hi all, following long discussions with multiple players, admins etc. It seems like there is very positive feedback to my suggestion in the other thread started by ccb regarding introducing a new format to the league, so much so that I was encouraged to write a dedicated thread to this. So here goes...

The individual rankings format will still be dependent upon ctf scores and not individual scores. kills and deaths mean nothing. the elo changes will only be based upon CTF win/loss. I don't know if you guys know about the Dota 2 MMR system. Basically in a 5v5 match, you're put in a team where your ...

Ok, just to be clear, CCB and I are proposing completely different ideas. I'm not too sure about your idea ccb because it either requires the council to force allocation of players amongst teams, or teams/current players are willing to take on new players to have a mix in every team. As Indy has sai...

I think ccb raises some good points and valid issues. Unfortunately I feel like this is a direct side effect of a lack of players in the league. We have experienced players, and very new players. There's hardly anything in between. If there were more players the gaps between skill levels wouldn't be...

Best news I've heard about this game in ages! Congrats blast and others for making it happen. Hope this leads to a brighter future for this game. Excited!